Law of Sines and Law of Cosines

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Law of Sines and Law of Cosines

Solving oblique triangles: AAS, ASA, SSA, SAS, SSS, area, and applications

The Law of Sines (AAS and ASA)

Tip
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Rounding convention (used throughout). Unless told otherwise, round angles to the nearest tenth of a degree and side lengths / areas to the nearest hundredth. Carry extra digits in intermediate steps and round only at the end.

Two sides and the included angle.

Every triangle here is oblique (no right angle guaranteed). We name the three angles A,B,CA,B,C and put the side opposite each angle in the matching lowercase letter: side aa is opposite angle AA, and so on.

Concept
Law of Sines

For any triangle ABCABC,

asinA=bsinB=csinC.\frac{a}{\sin A}=\frac{b}{\sin B}=\frac{c}{\sin C}.

When to use it: you know an angle and the side opposite it, plus one more piece.

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  • AAS / ASA — two angles and any one side. Find the third angle by A+B+C=180A+B+C=180^\circ, then use a ratio.
  • SSA — two sides and an angle opposite one of them (the ambiguous case, next section).
Reminder — Law of Sines:asinA=bsinB=csinC\frac{a}{\sin A}=\frac{b}{\sin B}=\frac{c}{\sin C}
Example
AAS: given A=40A=40^\circ, B=60B=60^\circ, a=10a=10

Third angle: C=1804060=80C=180^\circ-40^\circ-60^\circ=80^\circ.

b=asinBsinA=10sin60sin4013.47,c=asinCsinA=10sin80sin4015.32.b=\frac{a\sin B}{\sin A}=\frac{10\sin 60^\circ}{\sin 40^\circ}\approx 13.47,\qquad c=\frac{a\sin C}{\sin A}=\frac{10\sin 80^\circ}{\sin 40^\circ}\approx 15.32.
Example
ASA: given A=45A=45^\circ, B=105B=105^\circ, included side c=20c=20

Third angle: C=18045105=30C=180^\circ-45^\circ-105^\circ=30^\circ. Now cc is opposite the known angle CC, so

a=csinAsinC=20sin45sin3028.28,b=csinBsinC=20sin105sin3038.64.a=\frac{c\sin A}{\sin C}=\frac{20\sin 45^\circ}{\sin 30^\circ}\approx 28.28,\qquad b=\frac{c\sin B}{\sin C}=\frac{20\sin 105^\circ}{\sin 30^\circ}\approx 38.64.
Tip

Pick-the-law tip. If a problem gives you a complete angle--opposite-side pair (an angle and its opposite side)\big(\text{an angle and its opposite side}\big), reach for the Law of Sines. If it does not, you will need the Law of Cosines.

Reminder — Law of Cosines:c2=a2+b22abcosCc^{2}=a^{2}+b^{2}-2ab\cos C

The Ambiguous Case (SSA)

Concept
SSA: how many triangles?
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Given angle AA, its opposite side aa, and an adjacent side bb. Let the “altitude” be h=bsinAh=b\sin A. Compare aa with hh and with bb:

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  • If AA is acute: a<ha<h\Rightarrow 0 triangles; a=ha=h\Rightarrow 1 (right) triangle; h<a<bh<a<b\Rightarrow 2 triangles; aba\ge b\Rightarrow 1 triangle.
  • If AA is obtuse: aba\le b\Rightarrow 0 triangles; a>ba>b\Rightarrow 1 triangle.

To solve: compute sinB=bsinAa\sin B=\dfrac{b\sin A}{a}. The acute value B1B_1 and its supplement B2=180B1B_2=180^\circ-B_1 are both candidates; keep B2B_2 only if A+B2<180A+B_2<180^\circ.

Two sides and the included angle.

When h<a<bh<a<b the side of length aa can reach the base line at two points B1B_1 and B2B_2, giving two different triangles.

Example
Full SSA with two triangles: a=8a=8, b=10b=10, A=40A=40^\circ

Here AA is acute and h=bsinA=10sin406.43h=b\sin A=10\sin 40^\circ\approx 6.43. Since h<a<bh<a<b (6.43<8<106.43<8<10), there are two triangles.

sinB=bsinAa=10sin4080.8035    B153.5  or  B2=18053.5=126.5.\sin B=\frac{b\sin A}{a}=\frac{10\sin 40^\circ}{8}\approx 0.8035 \;\Rightarrow\; B_1\approx 53.5^\circ \ \text{ or }\ B_2=180^\circ-53.5^\circ=126.5^\circ.

Both keep the angle sum below 180180^\circ, so both survive.

Triangle 1: B153.5B_1\approx 53.5^\circ,   C1=1804053.586.5\;C_1=180^\circ-40^\circ-53.5^\circ\approx 86.5^\circ,

c1=asinC1sinA=8sin86.5sin4012.42.c_1=\frac{a\sin C_1}{\sin A}=\frac{8\sin 86.5^\circ}{\sin 40^\circ}\approx 12.42.

Triangle 2: B2126.5B_2\approx 126.5^\circ,   C2=18040126.513.5\;C_2=180^\circ-40^\circ-126.5^\circ\approx 13.5^\circ,

c2=asinC2sinA=8sin13.5sin402.90.c_2=\frac{a\sin C_2}{\sin A}=\frac{8\sin 13.5^\circ}{\sin 40^\circ}\approx 2.90.
Tip

SSA warning. Always compute h=bsinAh=b\sin A first. Never accept a single answer from your calculator's sin1\sin^{-1} without checking whether the supplementary angle also gives a valid triangle.

The Law of Cosines (SAS and SSS)

Concept
Law of Cosines
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For any triangle ABCABC,

a2=b2+c22bccosA,b2=a2+c22accosB,c2=a2+b22abcosC.a^2=b^2+c^2-2bc\cos A,\quad b^2=a^2+c^2-2ac\cos B,\quad c^2=a^2+b^2-2ab\cos C.

When to use it: there is no complete angle--opposite-side pair.

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  • SAS — two sides and the included angle: find the third side directly.
  • SSS — all three sides: solve an angle by rearranging, e.g. cosA=b2+c2a22bc\cos A=\dfrac{b^2+c^2-a^2}{2bc}.

Tip: in SSS, find the largest angle first (opposite the longest side); a negative cosine tells you it is obtuse.

Two sides and the included angle.

Example
SAS: given a=5a=5, b=7b=7, included angle C=45C=45^\circ
c2=a2+b22abcosC=25+492(5)(7)cos4524.50    c4.95.c^2=a^2+b^2-2ab\cos C=25+49-2(5)(7)\cos 45^\circ\approx 24.50\;\Rightarrow\; c\approx 4.95.

Then find another angle with the Law of Cosines:

cosA=b2+c2a22bc=49+24.50252(7)(4.95)0.6999    A45.6,\cos A=\frac{b^2+c^2-a^2}{2bc}=\frac{49+24.50-25}{2(7)(4.95)}\approx 0.6999\;\Rightarrow\; A\approx 45.6^\circ,

and B=1804545.689.4B=180^\circ-45^\circ-45.6^\circ\approx 89.4^\circ.

Example
SSS: given a=8a=8, b=11b=11, c=15c=15

Longest side is cc, so angle CC is largest. Solve it first:

cosC=a2+b2c22ab=64+1212252(8)(11)=401760.2273    C103.1 (obtuse).\cos C=\frac{a^2+b^2-c^2}{2ab}=\frac{64+121-225}{2(8)(11)}=\frac{-40}{176}\approx -0.2273\;\Rightarrow\; C\approx 103.1^\circ \ (\text{obtuse}).

Next,

cosB=a2+c2b22ac=64+2251212(8)(15)=168240=0.7    B45.6,\cos B=\frac{a^2+c^2-b^2}{2ac}=\frac{64+225-121}{2(8)(15)}=\frac{168}{240}=0.7\;\Rightarrow\; B\approx 45.6^\circ,

and A=180103.145.631.3A=180^\circ-103.1^\circ-45.6^\circ\approx 31.3^\circ. (Check: 31.3+45.6+103.1=180.031.3+45.6+103.1=180.0.)

Tip

Which law? SAS or SSS \Rightarrow Law of Cosines. AAS, ASA, or SSA \Rightarrow Law of Sines. When you must chase down remaining parts, finish with whichever law keeps the arithmetic cleanest.

Area of a Triangle

Concept
Two area formulas

SAS (two sides and the included angle):

Area=12absinC=12bcsinA=12acsinB.\text{Area}=\tfrac12\,ab\sin C=\tfrac12\,bc\sin A=\tfrac12\,ac\sin B.

Heron's formula (three sides, SSS): with semiperimeter s=a+b+c2s=\dfrac{a+b+c}{2},

Area=s(sa)(sb)(sc).\text{Area}=\sqrt{s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)}.

Use the SAS formula when you have an included angle; use Heron's when you only have the three sides.

Example
SAS area: a=6a=6, b=9b=9, C=55C=55^\circ
Area=12absinC=12(6)(9)sin5522.12.\text{Area}=\tfrac12\,ab\sin C=\tfrac12(6)(9)\sin 55^\circ\approx 22.12.
Example
Heron's formula: a=7a=7, b=8b=8, c=9c=9
s=7+8+92=12,Area=12(127)(128)(129)=12543=72026.83.s=\frac{7+8+9}{2}=12,\qquad \text{Area}=\sqrt{12(12-7)(12-8)(12-9)}=\sqrt{12\cdot 5\cdot 4\cdot 3}=\sqrt{720}\approx 26.83.
Reminder — Heron's formula:A=s(sa)(sb)(sc),s=a+b+c2A=\sqrt{s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)},\qquad s=\frac{a+b+c}{2}

Applications: Surveying, Navigation, and Bearings

Concept
Setting up word problems
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  • Bearing is an angle measured clockwise from due north, e.g. N4040^\circE means 4040^\circ east of north. A three-digit bearing like 120120^\circ is measured clockwise from north.
  • Draw the picture, label every known length and angle, then decide: is there a complete angle--opposite-side pair (Law of Sines) or not (Law of Cosines)?
  • In a change-of-course problem, the interior angle at the turning point is 180180^\circ minus the change in bearing.
  • Multi-triangle problems: solve one triangle to get a shared side, then use that side in the next triangle.
Example
Surveying: distance across a pond

Points AA and BB are 500500 m apart on one shore. A tree TT across the pond makes TAB=40\angle TAB=40^\circ and TBA=65\angle TBA=65^\circ. Find ATAT.

T=1804065=75,AT=ABsinBsinT=500sin65sin75469.14 m.\angle T=180^\circ-40^\circ-65^\circ=75^\circ,\qquad AT=\frac{AB\sin B}{\sin T}=\frac{500\sin 65^\circ}{\sin 75^\circ}\approx 469.14\text{ m}.
Example
Navigation: change of course

A ship sails 2020 mi on bearing N3030^\circE, then 3030 mi on bearing N7070^\circE. How far is it from the start?

The change in bearing is 7030=4070^\circ-30^\circ=40^\circ, so the interior angle at the turn is 18040=140180^\circ-40^\circ=140^\circ. With the two legs as the known sides,

d2=202+3022(20)(30)cos1402219.25    d47.11 mi.d^2=20^2+30^2-2(20)(30)\cos 140^\circ\approx 2219.25\;\Rightarrow\; d\approx 47.11\text{ mi}.
Tip

Final reminders. Sketch first. Watch SSA for two answers. Use the Law of Cosines to find the largest angle when all three sides are known. State units and round only at the end.

Going Deeper: Advanced Triangle Laws

Everything below builds on the two laws you already know. The rounding convention from the top of the sheet still applies: angles to the nearest tenth of a degree, lengths and areas to the nearest hundredth.

Two sides and the included angle.

Concept
The Extended Law of Sines: circumradius and inradius

The common ratio in the Law of Sines is not just a number---it equals the diameter of the circumscribed circle (the circle through all three vertices, radius RR):

asinA=bsinB=csinC=2R.\frac{a}{\sin A}=\frac{b}{\sin B}=\frac{c}{\sin C}=2R.

Two more links tie area to these radii. Writing KK for the area and s=a+b+c2s=\dfrac{a+b+c}{2} for the semiperimeter,

R=abc4K,r=Ks,R=\frac{abc}{4K},\qquad\qquad r=\frac{K}{s},

where rr is the radius of the inscribed circle (the circle tangent to all three sides). The second identity comes from splitting the triangle into three smaller triangles, one per side, each with height rr: K=12ra+12rb+12rc=rsK=\tfrac12 r a+\tfrac12 r b+\tfrac12 r c=rs.

Example
Circumradius and inradius of the 77--88--99 triangle

From the earlier Heron computation, a=7a=7, b=8b=8, c=9c=9 give s=12s=12 and

K=72026.83.K=\sqrt{720}\approx 26.83.

Therefore

R=abc4K=7894720=50447204.70,r=Ks=720122.24.R=\frac{abc}{4K}=\frac{7\cdot 8\cdot 9}{4\sqrt{720}}=\frac{504}{4\sqrt{720}}\approx 4.70, \qquad r=\frac{K}{s}=\frac{\sqrt{720}}{12}\approx 2.24.

Check with the Extended Law of Sines. The largest angle is opposite c=9c=9:

cosC=a2+b2c22ab=49+64812(7)(8)=321120.2857    C73.4,\cos C=\frac{a^2+b^2-c^2}{2ab}=\frac{49+64-81}{2(7)(8)}=\frac{32}{112}\approx 0.2857\;\Rightarrow\;C\approx 73.4^\circ,

and csinC=9sin73.49.39=2R\dfrac{c}{\sin C}=\dfrac{9}{\sin 73.4^\circ}\approx 9.39=2R, so R4.70R\approx 4.70 as before.

Concept
Cevians: Stewart's Theorem, medians, and angle bisectors

A cevian is any segment from a vertex to the opposite side. Draw the cevian ADAD from AA to point DD on side a=BCa=BC, and let

BD=m,DC=n,AD=d,m+n=a.BD=m,\qquad DC=n,\qquad AD=d,\qquad m+n=a.

Stewart's Theorem relates the cevian length to the three sides (mnemonic man + dad = bmb + cnc):

b2m+c2n=a(d2+mn).b^2 m+c^2 n=a\,(d^2+mn).

Two special cevians have ready-made length formulas:

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  • Median to side aa (here m=n=a2m=n=\tfrac{a}{2}):   ma2=2b2+2c2a24.\displaystyle m_a^2=\frac{2b^2+2c^2-a^2}{4}.
  • Angle bisector from AA (it splits aa in the ratio c:bc:b, so m=acb+cm=\dfrac{ac}{b+c}, n=abb+cn=\dfrac{ab}{b+c}): @@BLOCK2@@
Example
Median and angle bisector in the 77--88--99 triangle

Take a=7a=7, b=8b=8, c=9c=9 and cevians drawn from vertex AA to side a=BCa=BC.

Median.

ma2=2(82)+2(92)724=128+162494=2414=60.25    ma7.76.m_a^2=\frac{2(8^2)+2(9^2)-7^2}{4}=\frac{128+162-49}{4}=\frac{241}{4}=60.25\;\Rightarrow\;m_a\approx 7.76.

Angle bisector.

ta2=bc[(b+c)2a2](b+c)2=89(17272)172=72(28949)289=7224028959.79    ta7.73.t_a^2=\frac{bc\big[(b+c)^2-a^2\big]}{(b+c)^2}=\frac{8\cdot 9\,(17^2-7^2)}{17^2}=\frac{72(289-49)}{289}=\frac{72\cdot 240}{289}\approx 59.79 \;\Rightarrow\;t_a\approx 7.73.

Verify the median by Stewart with m=n=3.5m=n=3.5:

b2m+c2n=64(3.5)+81(3.5)=507.5,a(d2+mn)=7(60.25+12.25)=7(72.5)=507.5. b^2m+c^2n=64(3.5)+81(3.5)=507.5,\qquad a(d^2+mn)=7\big(60.25+12.25\big)=7(72.5)=507.5.\ \checkmark
Concept
Area, revisited: five methods and area ratios

Depending on what you are given, any of these computes the area KK:

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  • SAS: K=12absinCK=\tfrac12 ab\sin C (two sides and the included angle).
  • Heron: K=s(sa)(sb)(sc)K=\sqrt{s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)} (three sides).
  • Inradius: K=rsK=rs (area from the inscribed circle).
  • Circumradius: K=abc4RK=\dfrac{abc}{4R} (area from the circumscribed circle).
  • Two-angles-and-a-side (AAS/ASA): K=a2sinBsinC2sinAK=\dfrac{a^2\sin B\sin C}{2\sin A}.

Area ratios. A cevian from AA to DD on BCBC makes two triangles ABDABD and ADCADC that share the same height from AA, so

[ABD][ADC]=BDDC=mn.\frac{[ABD]}{[ADC]}=\frac{BD}{DC}=\frac{m}{n}.

For a quadrilateral, draw a diagonal to split it into two triangles and add their areas---the diagonal itself is found with the Law of Cosines.

Example
Surveyed quadrilateral field from several bearings

A four-sided plot ABCDABCD is surveyed. The walk from AA to BB is 6060 m, and from BB to CC is 8080 m; the recorded bearings make the interior angle at BB equal to 110110^\circ. The remaining sides are CD=100CD=100 m and DA=70DA=70 m. Find the plot's area.

Step 1 --- diagonal ACAC (Law of Cosines in ABC\triangle ABC).

AC2=602+8022(60)(80)cos11013283.20    AC115.25 m.AC^2=60^2+80^2-2(60)(80)\cos 110^\circ\approx 13283.20\;\Rightarrow\;AC\approx 115.25\text{ m}.

Step 2 --- area of ABC\triangle ABC (SAS).

[ABC]=12(60)(80)sin1102255.32 m2.[ABC]=\tfrac12(60)(80)\sin 110^\circ\approx 2255.32\text{ m}^2.

Step 3 --- area of ACD\triangle ACD (Heron, three sides now known). With sides 115.25115.25, 100100, 7070 and s142.63s\approx 142.63,

[ACD]=s(s115.25)(s100)(s70)3476.63 m2.[ACD]=\sqrt{s(s-115.25)(s-100)(s-70)}\approx 3476.63\text{ m}^2.

Total area 2255.32+3476.635731.95 m2\approx 2255.32+3476.63\approx 5731.95\text{ m}^2.

Tip

Parameter-driven ambiguous-case counting. Fix an acute angle AA and side bb, then ask how the number of SSA triangles changes as the opposite side aa grows. The two thresholds are a=bsinAa=b\sin A (grazing / right triangle) and a=ba=b:

a<bsinA0a=bsinA1 (right)bsinA<a<b2ab1.\underbrace{a<b\sin A}_{\textbf{0}}\quad\big|\quad\underbrace{a=b\sin A}_{\textbf{1 (right)}}\quad\big|\quad\underbrace{b\sin A<a<b}_{\textbf{2}}\quad\big|\quad\underbrace{a\ge b}_{\textbf{1}}.

For example, with A=30A=30^\circ and b=10b=10 the thresholds sit at bsinA=5b\sin A=5 and b=10b=10:

If instead AA is obtuse, only a>ba>b yields a triangle (exactly one); aba\le b gives none.

Concept
Proving a relationship: a2=b(b+c)  A=2Ba^2=b(b+c)\ \Rightarrow\ A=2B

Advanced problems often ask you to prove a triangle identity rather than solve for a number. Here is a model proof using the Law of Sines together with a product-to-difference identity.

Claim. If the sides of a triangle satisfy a2=b(b+c)a^2=b(b+c), then A=2BA=2B.

Proof. By the Law of Sines write a=2RsinAa=2R\sin A, b=2RsinBb=2R\sin B, c=2RsinCc=2R\sin C. Substituting into a2=b2+bca^2=b^2+bc and cancelling the common 4R24R^2,

sin2A=sin2B+sinBsinC.\sin^2 A=\sin^2 B+\sin B\sin C.

Because C=180(A+B)C=180^\circ-(A+B), we have sinC=sin(A+B)\sin C=\sin(A+B), so

sin2Asin2B=sinBsin(A+B).\sin^2 A-\sin^2 B=\sin B\,\sin(A+B).

Apply the identity sin2Asin2B=sin(A+B)sin(AB)\sin^2 A-\sin^2 B=\sin(A+B)\sin(A-B) to the left side:

sin(A+B)sin(AB)=sinBsin(A+B).\sin(A+B)\sin(A-B)=\sin B\,\sin(A+B).

Since 0<A+B<1800^\circ<A+B<180^\circ, sin(A+B)0\sin(A+B)\neq 0; dividing gives sin(AB)=sinB\sin(A-B)=\sin B. The two ways this can hold are AB=BA-B=B or AB=180BA-B=180^\circ-B. The latter forces A=180A=180^\circ, impossible in a triangle, so AB=BA-B=B, i.e. A=2BA=2B. \qquad\blacksquare

Tip

Advanced toolkit, at a glance. Need a radius? 2R=asinA2R=\dfrac{a}{\sin A} and r=Ksr=\dfrac{K}{s}. Need a cevian? Stewart's b2m+c2n=a(d2+mn)b^2m+c^2n=a(d^2+mn), with ready formulas for medians and bisectors. Need an area? Pick from SAS, Heron, rsrs, abc4R\dfrac{abc}{4R}, or split a polygon along a diagonal. Proving an identity? Convert sides to sines with the Law of Sines, then lean on sum/product identities.

Formulas, Proofs & Tips

Tip
Law of Sines
asinA=bsinB=csinC\frac{a}{\sin A}=\frac{b}{\sin B}=\frac{c}{\sin C}

What it means. In any triangle each side is proportional to the sine of its opposite angle.

Example. asin30=10sin90a=1012=5\dfrac{a}{\sin 30^\circ}=\dfrac{10}{\sin 90^\circ}\Rightarrow a=10\cdot\tfrac12=5.

Why it works. Drop the height hh to side cc. Then h=bsinAh=b\sin A from one right triangle and h=asinBh=a\sin B from the other, so bsinA=asinBb\sin A=a\sin B, which rearranges to asinA=bsinB\tfrac{a}{\sin A}=\tfrac{b}{\sin B}.

Tip. Use it when you have an angle paired with its opposite side (AAS, ASA, SSA). The SSA case can give two triangles — check whether a second angle also fits.

Tip
Law of Cosines
c2=a2+b22abcosCc^{2}=a^{2}+b^{2}-2ab\cos C

What it means. Pythagoras with a correction term for the angle not being right.

Example. Sides 3,43,4 with included angle 6060^\circ: c2=9+1623412=13c^2=9+16-2\cdot3\cdot4\cdot\tfrac12=13.

Why it works. Place CC at the origin with aa along the xx-axis. The other vertex sits at (bcosC, bsinC)(b\cos C,\ b\sin C), and the distance formula to (a,0)(a,0) gives c2=(bcosCa)2+(bsinC)2c^2=(b\cos C-a)^2+(b\sin C)^2. Expanding and using sin2+cos2=1\sin^2+\cos^2=1 leaves a2+b22abcosCa^2+b^2-2ab\cos C.

Tip. When C=90C=90^\circ, cosC=0\cos C=0 and it collapses to a2+b2=c2a^2+b^2=c^2. Use it for SSS and SAS, where the Law of Sines cannot start.

Tip
Area from two sides and the included angle
Area=12absinC\text{Area}=\tfrac12 ab\sin C

What it means. Half the product of two sides times the sine of the angle between them.

Example. Sides 6,86,8 with included angle 3030^\circ: Area =126812=12=\tfrac12\cdot6\cdot8\cdot\tfrac12=12.

Why it works. Area is 12(base)(height)\tfrac12(\text{base})(\text{height}). Taking aa as the base, the height from the far vertex is bsinCb\sin C, giving 12absinC\tfrac12 ab\sin C.

Tip. The angle must be between the two sides. With all three sides instead, use Heron's formula.

Tip
Heron's formula
A=s(sa)(sb)(sc),s=a+b+c2A=\sqrt{s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)},\qquad s=\frac{a+b+c}{2}

What it means. The area of a triangle from its three sides alone — no angle or height needed.

Example. Sides 3,4,53,4,5: s=6s=6, so A=6321=6A=\sqrt{6\cdot 3\cdot 2\cdot 1}=6.

Why it works. Start from A=12absinCA=\tfrac12 ab\sin C, replace sinC\sin C with 1cos2C\sqrt{1-\cos^2C}, and substitute cosC\cos C from the Law of Cosines. The algebra factors into the four bracketed terms.

Tip. ss is the SEMI-perimeter — half the perimeter. Forgetting the halving is the usual slip.